“Everything in gaming is very simple. But the simplest thing is difficult.” Clausewitz didn’t write that, but maybe he should have? Jared talks with Dr. Nicholas Murray, author, wargamer, and teacher about game design, strategic thinking, and what Dead Carl actually wrote.

Can’t make NASAGA 2024 because you’re on the other side of the planet? Consider attending our partner conference, Malaysian Simulation and Gaming Conference (MASAGA 2024), from 22-24 October at the Everly Putrajaya Hotel in Putrajaya, Malaysia. If you can’t make it, consider passing the word on to a friend or colleague in the area.

Kelly from the 20-Sided Gamified Podcast Team takes lead mic for the first time! Check out this interview with Kenny Viado of Rogue State Games.